No, it's not all about AD 70

I’ve just been listening to what strikes me as an excellent introductory podcast on eschatology by Martin Scott - a nice example of how a rethinking of eschatology along narrative-historical lines has the potential for generating good new theological syntheses. It caught my eye because Martin lists The Coming of the Son of Man as a ‘provocative’ influence on his thinking alongside NT Wright and Open Theology. But he rather spoils the effect, from my point of view, by concluding that I have presented ‘such a strong fulfilment in the events of AD 70 that you’re left wondering if he proposes an actual parousia at all’.

I have come across this misunderstanding - or at least, misrepresentation - a number of times. I’m not sure how it comes about, unless people are only reading the first two or three chapters; but I will take this opportunity to clarify my argument. It seems to me - and I think the point is made clearly enough in the book - that the New Testament has three quite distinct future horizons.

The first horizon is the foreseen war against Rome, interpreted as the final historical outworking of God’s wrath against a disobedient people. This is basically Jesus’ horizon. As Martin says, following Wright, Jesus is the eschatological prophet to Israel, calling the people to a renewed faithfulness - but also warning them that they are otherwise walking a broad political-religious path that within a generation will lead to the destruction of the nation. Jesus looked to this event as the concrete vindication of his prophetic stance.

The second horizon comes into view as the church moves beyond the borders of national Israel into the pagan world and finds itself opposed by a vast, powerful, and at times virulently hostile belief system, at the pinnacle of which sits the divinized emperor - the king who thinks equality with God a thing to be grasped. Rome is the ‘beast’ that will be the instrument of judgment against Israel, but God will not allow the empire to have ultimate victory over his people. So Paul, in particular, foresees a historical triumph of Jesus as Lord over the lordship of Caesar, and the eventual vindication of the ‘saints’ who suffer at the hands of the blasphemous oppressor. This is how he restates or re-applies the parousia motif - it is the ‘coming’ of Jesus, on the one hand, to deliver his followers from their enemies and, on the other, to receive the ‘kingdom’ that has been taken away from the fourth beast.

The third horizon emerges on the outer edge of New Testament expectation as a corollary of the resurrection of Jesus. I think that Jesus’ resurrection has its conceptual origins - if we can put it that way - in the hope of Israel’s restoration; but a real victory over injustice and death raises the possibility that the whole of creation might be made new. The bodily resurrection of Jesus is seen to entail not only the mundane renewal of the microcosm but also the ultra-mundane renewal of heaven and earth and the final abolition of injustice and defeat of the last enemy of creation, death. The important point to note is that this final horizon is not associated with the language and imagery of the parousia motif, which has to do fundamentally with the historical vindication of the people of God.

So where are we now? We have moved beyond the first two horizons, which have become part of our story, integral to our identity, definitive moments in the the transformation of the historical people of God. But we derive a fundamental hope in the Creator from the vision of a new creation, and we allow that hope to shape our life and mission.

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Re: No, it's not all about AD 70

Huge thank you for the mention of the podcast - and also very glad of your comments here. I am trying to give some fresh thinking for mainstream charismania (who are in the main locked into a revamped Dispensationalism, a naive pro-Israel, or a restoration-type dominion eschatology). I cannot claim it is fresh beyond that sphere though!! My apologies if I misunderstood / misrepresented you. I can remember reading the first chapters and thinking where will this eventually go, and was trying to prepare potential readers from the above camps of what they might think. I have no doubt your book is a landmark book making accessible to a broad range of people good scholarship. (It was one of 10 books I have taken with me here to Mallorca!!) Thanks too for the very clear notes above on the horizons. I would like - with your permission - to publish unedited your comments on my blog, with a little ‘buy this book’ plug. It won’t send your sells into never-never land but I am always keen to promote good literature.

Re: No, it's not all about AD 70

Glad you’ve come across Martin Scott, Andrew. I haven’t listened to the podcast (will do) and it sounds as if he misinterprets your stance - which it is not difficult to do!

Just to say - Martin really set me off on the track of taking contemporary theology seriously several years ago through some courses he put on for us untutored folk in the Pioneer church stream. As a bible teacher, he was outstanding - and up to date. Through him, I encountered Ed Sanders, ‘Covenantal Nomism’, New Perspective and the like.

It was as a result of my encounters with Martin that that I enrolled in the LST hermeneurics distance learning course, and as a result of that that I met you.

I don’t see Martin any more - he has relocated to the Belearics. I regret somewhat his incursion into ‘sowing seeds of revival’ - though I enjoyed the input he gave to Guildford through this. His prophetic gift was always the motivating engine. If this had been harnessed to an almost equally outstanding teaching gift, things would have been perfect.

A bit of an eulogy - but of my contemporaries: 1. Martin and 2. Yourself have been the greatest practical influences in theological exploration (even I disagree with you a lot of the time!).

From Whence Cometh The Third?

Hi Andrew,

I’m re-reading The Coming of the Son of Man and making my way through Re:Mission. I’m a fan. (And I think I’ve given you the link to This Book Will Change Your World, right?) I love how you build on some of Wright’s understandings, and in my opinion strengthen eschatology by not simply saying something like ‘We live between acts III and IV of a four-act play;’ your reading of the story isn’t reductionistic like that.

Nonetheless! I always ask a bold question of folks who begin the path you’re taking but don’t go the full preterist route: How is is that you see so much of Jesus’ and Paul’s language as metaphorical/prophetic/symbolic, but don’t see some image-laden phrases, like ‘heavens and earth,’ in the same way? It seems like we could read 100% of the biblical story as referring to events close in time and geography, including the defeat of (spiritual) death and the abolition of our passing (covenantal) worlds to usher in a new (covanental) heavens & earth. I’m not trying to be gnostic or matter-denying here, but why can Paul write meaningfully about our ‘dying’ and ‘rising’ with Christ, yet we can’t see the thought of our resurrection being a similar awakening to abundant life, and not a literal mitigation of the cycles of birth, expiration, decay, and compost that have been with our ecosystems for millions of years? Can we, in the 21st century, dare hope (or even want to hope) for a literal ‘do-over’ of our geology? 

I see the first and second horizons clearly in Scripture, but I guess what you see as a third horizon I see as firmly ensconced in your second. I don’t know if the NT writers could be metaphorical and symbolic when speaking of Rome’s downfall but then woodenly literal when talking about the cessation of natural forces and planets.

Re: From Whence Cometh The Third?

Mike, thanks for the comments. I can see that there is hermeneutical integrity in your approach, but I don’t think the New Testament quite lets us go that far. I’ve tried to answer your basic point here: Is that third horizon just a mirage? But the real challenge is to make the case for a final transformation without losing that integrity or the sense of biblical realism that goes along with it.

Yes, I got the link to Kevin’s book. I just having got round to reading it yet.

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